More from Peter Krasilovsky today…
Homethinking, which rolls out a service today that lets users compare neighborhoods in cities. An art gallery lover in Soho, for instance, might find the 7th street corridor in Washington D.C. to be their place. Gramercy Park is considered a match for Nob Hill in San Francisco.
Mike Boland posted today about a conversation with Center’d’s CEO who…
positions the company as a deeper dive into events, which breaths more functionality into all of the nuances of planning local outings. With the tag line, people, places, plans, it also brings in some social features and local search functionality.
The value proposition lies in the integration of these otherwise disparate local media categories. The idea is that a group of friends can plan a weekday dinner outing, find the location, read reviews (Yelp integration), invite people, and set up a landing page as a central source for event management. One can argue that this already exists with Google Maps, Yelp, and Evite, but the main point is that it doesn’t exist all in one place.
Center’d formerly was known as FatDoor.
Peter Krasilovsky reports today…
Getting people to submit reviews is hard. We’ve seen incentives such as $5 coffee cards (a lot), $10 gas cards, and direct donations to charity (InsiderPages‘ current model)…
This month, Angie’s List, a paid service founded in 1995 that counts 650,000 members… launches a review campaign with the biggest review incentive we’ve seen yet: a free Flip video camera for 15 submissions. The camera is worth about $120. Reviewers also get entered into a $5,000 sweepstakes.
The twist is that all 15 reviews must be for local services, and three of the submissions must be for Angie’s new medical category. The reports on Angie’s List aren’t likely to be rushed affairs, since each one follows a template with six questions — and your name is on it.
Whether you call them the “Three Ms” – members, messages and moolah – or the “Three Cs” – community, content and cash – one of the three critical elements to any Web 2.0 site is “user generated content.” Those with the magic attract content, while others pay for it. Some people get bent out of shape about this kind of thing… see it as a sin against all things webby and wonderful. Not me.
Angie’s List is an established successful big business. They charge people to participate and now they pay people in certain cases to write their reviews. This seems similar to the business of publishing as we’ve always known it… a publisher pays a writer to write and then sells the writing to readers for a fee.
Front Porch Forum does not charge its members to participate… to read or to write… although we have given away a few donated ball game tickets and gift certificates in raffles among members who posted recently. Who knows what the future will bring?
I think we’ll see more and more experiments among Web 2.0 sites to capture a greater share of the three Cs. Or is it the “Three Rs?” Readers, ‘riters, and revenue. Gotta have lots of all three!
UPDATE: Andrew Shotland chimed in too.
A friend jokingly refers to Front Porch Forum as the “anti-internet” and he got me thinking. I ended up with the chart below comparing conventional wisdom for much of “Web 2.0” vs. FPF.
FYI, Front Porch Forum hosts networks of online neighborhood forums that blanket metro areas. In our Chittenden County, VT, pilot, 11,000 households subscribe, including one-third of Burlington. People connect with neighbors and build community through the exchange of postings among clearly identified nearby neighbors.
So, Peter Kafka got me thinking more with his post on Silicon Alley Insider the other day, in particular this gem…
It’s counterintuitive, but during an up cycle people accept conventional wisdom, and during a down cycle people challenge it. That’s good. Very good. And the cycle will winnow competition.
Well… an upside to our economic crisis! A year ago during good times a few Web 2.0 experts took a look at Front Porch Forum and each, in his way, told us that we needed to get in line and look more like the left column above. And just in the past week I’ve heard from some folks in the same crowd and they’re showing up with open minds and probing questions.
A posting on TechCrunch came with this nifty illustration about adoption of new online services the other day…
… customers and word-of-mouth referrals travel from left to right along a bell curve that starts with Innovators and Early Adopters, peaks with the Early Majority and the Late Majority, and finally permeates with reaction from Laggards.

If I read this right, the author is claiming that Digg and Twitter have about 16% market penetration. In a previous posting here, it was noted that Digg has 30 million monthly visitors, with 3 million of them registered users. Considering just the U.S. population (300 million), wouldn’t that put Digg between 1% and 10% penetration? That is, still far from moving out of the Early Adopter range?
Nearly 20% of our pilot area subscribes to Front Porch Forum, including 33% of Burlington and better than 90% of our leading neighborhoods. That puts the bulk of our service in the Early Majority area, with our best neighborhoods pushing through the Late Majority and into the Laggards.
Thanks to Daniel for the link to this New York Times piece about newspapers’ online ad sales. Some points…
After 17 quarters of ballooning growth, online revenue at newspaper sites is falling. In the second quarter, it was down 2.4 percent compared with last year, to $777 million…
Overall online advertising, however, is strong. Display advertising, the graphics-rich ads that newspaper sites carry, grew 7.6 percent in the second quarter…
Unique readers in August were 17 percent higher than a year earlier, at 69.3 million…
Large papers… can sell premium ad space… for $15 to $50 for every thousand impressions. But these and other papers of all sizes have increasingly relied on middlemen — known as ad networks — to sell less desirable space, typically for around $1 for every thousand impressions…
There are now more than 300 networks, most offering custom ads, and they are popular venture-capital investments and acquisition targets…
Some sites unaffiliated with newspapers have also limited inventory and banned ad networks, and many report good results…
Front Porch Forum works with a limited ad inventory and we do not use ad networks.
This just in from Richmond Selectboard Member, Erik Filkorn…
The Richmond bridge is open to vehicles up to 3 tons. Plan your trip home accordingly and remember to stop at the final Farmer’s Market tonight!
That’s great news for the people and businesses of Richmond and surrounding towns. This has been the number one issue in Richmond in the month since the bridge over the Winooski River was suddenly closed. The village has a wonderful collection of small businesses, many of which have been struggling with the bridge closure. In fact, “shop Richmond” if you have the chance.
We’re so pleased that Front Porch Forum has been available to help residents, businesses and local public officials communicate and pitch in during this crisis. In fact, Erik used Front Porch Forum to break the news of the closure on September 4, 2008, shortly after he learned of it, and we’re publishing the good news of its opening right now across Richmond via FPF, just moments after the news became “official.” Thanks to Erik for making such good use of this service. Hopefully, the traditional media will cover the bridge-opening soon too.
Ghost of Midnight is an online journal about fostering community within neighborhoods, with a special focus on Front Porch Forum (FPF). My wife, Valerie, and I founded FPF in 2006... read more