Category Archives: Peer Reviews

CitySquares, PediCabs, and True Local

Posted on Sunday, June 8, 2008 by No comments yet

Peter Krasilovsky covers a Boston website today, CitySquares. Many interesting points…

Boston-based CitySquares, which just celebrated its second anniversary, is getting about 70,000 unique visitors per month and now has a base of 700 advertisers, averaging $1,200 per year, reports CEO Ben Saren… Roughly a third of the existing advertiser base is in the downtown Boston area, while the others come from adjacent communities… As with most other city guides, the best categories are restaurants and vanity sites –beauty salons, spas etc.

The hyperlocal company, which has raised under $2 million, has seven full time sales agents working for it, and has really built up a well-known brand in Beantown, says Saren. He believes that a large part of the recognition is due to innovative advertising efforts, such as local event sponsorships; quite a bit of viral marketing; and an exclusive deal with Boston Pedicabs. There are 17 Pedicabs cycling around Boston all day and night, and a CitySquares banner is on the back of each one – shared with various CitySquares advertisers, who help foot the bill.

Hey! I drove a pedicab in Washington, DC years ago… Boston must be a good spot for that.

To Saren, the high awareness factor puts the company in good position to “own” the market. He says, in fact, that it is a fallacy that local advertisers are being deluged by a wide group of hyerlocal opportunities. Sites associated with major local media and directory firms, such as The Boston Globe’s Boston. Com, Gatehouse’s Wicked Local and Idearc’s SuperPages, never come up in conversations with potential advertisers, he says. Yelp and Outside.in don’t either. Only IAC’s Citysearch comes up, and Saren believes he is gaining a bead on it.

I wonder about “owning” a region. It’s a tough slog to become the defacto place that local folks turn to on the web. Seems to me that once someone has that spot, they’d be dug in deep… hard to dislodge. This is an opportunity for genuinely local efforts — like CitySquares in Boston, iBrattleboro, Front Porch Forum and others — to get firmly rooted before the giant WalMart/McDonald versions of “local” come to town.

CitySquares is currently looking to expand its hyperlocal approach beyond Boston’s “Route 128” divider. Starting June 16, the company will launch automated versions of communities throughout New England and New York, easily accomplished using its data feed from Localeze and maps from Maponics. Saren acknowledges that the “expansion” won’t be fed with feet in the street and local editorial staff, at least initially. Those will be restricted to Boston. But if Manchester, NH suddenly starts giving us a lot of traffic, he says, “we’ll start a direct marketing campaign and provide prelaunch discounts to advertisers.”

If I had to bet on where they’ll win, I’d pick towns geographically very close to CitySquares early success… and places where they decide to invest real resources. “Build it and they’ll come” won’t cut it.

Post today, Knock on the door tomorrow

Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 by No comments yet

A Front Porch Forum member in Charlotte, VT wrote in today seeking recommendations for a housepainter… and I hope she finds what she needs.  It was her postscript that caught my eye…

PS. Thanks so much to whomever sent Steve Mack our direction for roto-tilling. He was great. It was so nice to post something one day and have him knock on my door the next! That is what neighbors are for!

Yelp Expansion Plans

Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 by No comments yet

Mike Boland writes today about Yelp, including…

The company is moving in some interesting directions and the $15 million it just received will provide the fuel. Much of it will be put towards sales & marketing to seed reviews activity and bring in SMB advertisers. Its 10 person sales office in New York City is the first such move and will be staffed with new and existing inside sales reps.

To clarify a point made in the last post, most of the company’s efforts to generate new reviews involve moving into new cites, rather than into new categories. Categories, according to Stoppleman, have to happen naturally and the company takes a hands off approach when it comes to the direction of the content. It’s geographical expansion plan also interestingly takes a stepping stone approach that branches out from existing cities and take advantage of the word of mouth and cross pollination of people between nearby cites like L.A., San Diego and San Francisco, in order to organically grow its branding and base of reviews.

Not trying to steer content makes sense.  As does the “stepping stones” expansion approach.

Yelp, Local Online Leader, worth $200M?

Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2008 by No comments yet

TechCrunch reported this week…

Yelp, the popular local review site, will soon announce a new $15 million dollar round of financing led by DAG Ventures. The valuation is rumored to be in the $200 million range. Yelp says that they will be using the money to expand geographically, add onto their sales team, and establish an office in NYC (they are based in San Francisco). This is Yelp’s fourth round of funding since their founding in 2004. Yelp is also boasting some impressive stats: 8.3 million uniques in the past 30 days and over 2.3 million review.

Mike Boland comments

Yelp has become a poster child for how to build a local reviews site and has become a clear favorite of the twenty and thirty-something urban “foodie”.

And Greg Sterling offers

Yelp’s success is about its “personality” and “transparency.” The site has managed to create a brand as a result of offering content that people have come to value and trust.

This brand identity is what now lifts it above many or most of its competitors.

But it’s the comment area on TechCrunch that starts to get at the most interesting points.  E.g.,

Comment No. 12 says in part…

Local interest websites are always non-viral, because they operate in the disjoint “internets” of each metropolitan area. So one needs to wait a very long time before they reach decent size. For Craigslist, it took 7-8 years. VCs will not wait that long. To accelerate this, you can throw money at the distribution/marketing. I do not know what the timescale for them will be in NYC, but VCs may get impatient, especially because this business is very recession-prone, and the recession is coming.

Comment No. 15…

i’m no expert, but $200mm for sub-$10 million revenue, no profits, and difficult to scale growth (building a community in a new metro area takes time and local ad sales takes sales manpower) seems really generous. i guess yelp is essentially the market leader and probably does get high return traffic from those who do use the site… maybe you can argue a decent ltv for each user?

And comment No. 37…

I helped start a review site that was funded at the same time as Yelp, InsiderPages, Judysbook, etc. After building the feature set, we set forth to capture the YP advertising market. Kelsey Group and other industry pundits were playing up the pending “massive” migration of local advertising from offline to online. We all wanted to be there to capture it.

There was one big problem with capturing those ad dollars: the cost of sale. Reaching out to local businesses costs money, a LOT of it. I’m not sure what Yelp’s rate in customer-review-leads-to-advertiser equation looks like, but here’s some back-of-the-envelope math:

2.3 million reviews
Assume average of 1.5 reviews per business location (this is generous)
yields
1.5 million businesses reviewed to date

Break down those businesses:
60% local, 40% regional or chain (some split along those lines)

The ad dollars are in the “national-local” or “regional-local” businesses. They have bigger budgets, and they’re familiar with the web play. But if you’re in the local review business, how many of your users will enjoy ads from Applebees and Home Depot?

So, you go after the “local-local” businesses, because that’s what brings the value of your site (Yelp) over the big guys (Yahoo Local, Google Local). Reaching out to these folks? You have to put feet on the street, and the cost of the sale just doesn’t pencil out.

Because of this, Yelp’s strategy is obvious acquisition. But at those numbers and a fourth round, they need to be eclipsing the {portal-name-here} Local properties in traffic. In short, good luck.

Front Porch Forum is not a local review site (although many of our subscribers do use it for reviews), but many of the points above apply.  We launched in our pilot area about 18 months ago and it gets a little easier every day in ways that money can’t buy.

Advice for Local Online Entrepreneurs

Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2008 by No comments yet

Andy Sack, founding CEO of now-shuttered Judy’s Book, offers this advice for folks looking to get traction in the “local reviews and word of mouth referrals business”…

i) GET TO CRITICAL MASS

  • Do this by limiting geography — stay in one geography for 3 years. Yes, 3 years. Do not expand geography for the first 36 months. Every successful online local business has been in one geography for 3 years.
  • Do this by limiting the number of categories or professions you’re trying to get word of mouth on. Do not try and do the entire yellow pages. Choose at most five categories. I might suggest: restaurants, dentists, doctors, auto mechanics, and real estate.
  • Do this by aggressive customer acquisition. Whatever your strategy for customer acquisition, get aggressive about. Do not sit in an ivory tower and expect to get to critical mass.
  • Aggregate content from other places on the web so you can avoid the empty database problem
  • Spend as little money as possible

ii) Go back to step i

Auto Repair Shop’s No. 1 Source of New Customers?

Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 by No comments yet

Our car needed some work today and our neighborhood mechanic had time and fit us right into his schedule… much appreciated.  He even helped us swap vehicles around to save us time and hassle (a very complex operation involving multiple pre-schoolers, snowsuits and carseats).

I was pleasantly surprised when he asked me how “that internet thing” was going.  Gary is an excellent mechanic, but he has little interest in the online universe.  I thought he was just being friendly and I was impressed that he remembered my work with Front Porch Forum.

He went on to volunteer that he had just had a business meeting yesterday and declined various advertising options because “we get our new customers through Front Porch Forum.”  Oh!

He ran one small ad months ago on FPF and occasionally is recommended by a neighbor on an individual FPF neighborhood forum… not a lot of activity from my perspective.  But he went on to say that he gets at least one customer/week who mentions Front Porch Forum!  And Gary’s shop is the kind of place that earns repeat customers for years and years.

What’s “Allowed” on Front Porch Forum?

Posted on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 by 1 comment

We get this question all the time from members… “What can I post on my neighborhood’s Front Porch Forum?”

Well… just about anything. Have at it. Any message that doesn’t significantly detract from FPF’s mission of helping neighbors connect and foster community within the neighborhood is GREAT.

Think of a block party… what would you chat about with your neighbors… just about anything. (Just don’t be a bore. Posting about your real estate business once is wonderful. Posting about it once a week is the wrong idea.)

Politics? Religion? Well, if you’d feel comfortable bringing it up at the “block party,” then give it a shot. Keep in mind that all postings are automatically signed with your full name and the street you live on… and they only go to your nearby neighbors.

The point is to get neighborhood conversation flowing… online at first, but ultimately in person. From the virtual to the actual front porch. So please post! Here are some headlines from a variety of neighborhood forums over the past few days…

  • 2 days left in Richmond CFL challenge!
  • Another Neighbor Joins Forum
  • APARTMENT AVAILABLE
  • Appropriate use of Volunteer Forum?
  • Babysitter needed
  • Benefit Dinner for Refugee Resettlement Jan. 11
  • Bob’s iPod Found
  • Break-Ins in Nearby Neighborhoods
  • Building Codes, Ethan Allen, etc.
  • buildings and restoration
  • Burlington Schools Survey for all Residents
  • Burlington Telecom ***Special Offer***
  • car break-in
  • Cards Anyone?
  • CATAMOUNT HEALTH FOR UNINSURED Jan. 7
  • CFL Question
  • CFL website
  • Children Product Recalls
  • Community Center Date Correction
  • Compact Fluorescent Lightbulb Question
  • Contra Dance Jan. 12
  • Down-sizing Sale Jan. 5
  • drumming for marathon (Memorial Day Weekend)
  • Experience with Sears
  • Five Sisters House for rent
  • FOREIGN LANGUAGE IN SCHOOLS – CORRECTION
  • Free Furniture and Seeking Truck Rental
  • Free Parent Workshop Jan. 15
  • free press delivery comments
  • Free Press Response to Delivery Issues
  • free printer ink cartridges
  • garbage collection this week
  • Great UVM Exercise Class for 55 Plus!
  • Green Democratic Alliance Meeting Jan. 6
  • Grow-light system for sale
  • Happy New year
  • HCS Budget Meetings and Community Invitation
  • Historic Preservation Comment
  • Homeopathy Class in Essex
  • House sitter recommended
  • Housecleaner recommended
  • Ice rink update
  • In Defense of Home Rehab Comments
  • kids poles lost at Cochrans Friday
  • Lakeside Photos
  • LEAD ABATEMENT PROGRAM
  • Legislative Forum Jan. 2
  • Library Event
  • Library Newsletter
  • Library Trustee position open
  • Lost Gloves Project
  • Lost your house(?) key?
  • Loveseat Barter; Seeking Kittens
  • Lyric Theatre Company Auditions
  • Main St. Sidewalk Conditions
  • Mantle for Sale
  • Miniature poodle needs good home
  • Misc. For Sale
  • Moran Plant Meetings and Police Chief Hiring
  • More Neighbors Join Forum
  • More on Black cat
  • Music and potluck Jan. 4
  • myths about cats
  • Neighborhood Owl
  • Neighborhood sign replacement
  • Neighborhood Theft
  • New member
  • New Parks and Rec Programs
  • one more – REPLACEMENT WINDOWS AND OFF COLORS
  • Package Delivery Perspective
  • Planet Huntington in January
  • Plumber recommendations please!
  • Police Response to Break-Ins
  • QUICK BITE ON FIRST NIGHT
  • Roof Snow Idea Appreciation
  • Sandals Needed
  • School Survey Feedback
  • Seamstress Follow Up
  • Season pass to Smugglers Notch for Sale
  • Seeking Before-the-Bell Childcare
  • Seeking computer repair
  • Seeking Crayons
  • Seeking Good Sitter
  • Seeking grow lights
  • SEEKING LOST HAT
  • Seeking Puppy training and socialization
  • Seeking Snow Ban Parking Solution
  • Seeking snowplow service recommendations
  • Snow Ban Parking Ideas
  • Snow Issues and Business Appreciation
  • Snow on Roof
  • Snowblower questions
  • Special Thank you to…
  • still seeking doors
  • Support Local Restaurants and Community Center
  • SWEET POTATO SOUP
  • Talent Search
  • talented seamstress in the neighborhood
  • Texas Hill Sewing
  • Thank you Trinity grades 1-3
  • Thoughts on Replacement Windows
  • Town Officials not on Forum… yet
  • Town Welcome Signs
  • Umbrella Found – Yours?
  • Use your Forum
  • vandalism on South Union St.
  • VERMONT COMEDY DIVAS PERFORM!
  • Welcome Neighbors
  • Winooski LIVE! January show
  • Winter Car Wanted
  • Youth Basketball Refs Needed

Hindsight for Judy’s Book

Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 by No comments yet

Greg Sterling got more lessons learned by Andy Sack around Judy’s Book demise…

Sack added that if he had to do it over he’d:

  • Launch in a single market and gain critical mass before going national
  • Launch with a narrow content focus: one category or just a few rather than trying to be comprehensive immediately
  • Try to get into the “deal flow” of local (think travel or OpenTable) and local ad spending
  • Have a long time horizon and tempered expectations accordingly

Babajob connects poor and elites

Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 by No comments yet

A fascinating article in the New York Times was brought to my attention today (thanks Hubert) about Babajob.com

Babajob, by contrast, connects India’s elites to the poor at their doorsteps, people who need jobs but lack the connections to find them. Job seekers advertise skills, employers advertise jobs and matches are made through social networks.

Google’s First Local Symposium

Posted on Friday, December 7, 2007 by No comments yet

I’ve been reading several postings about Google’s first Local Symposium that they hosted at their HQ the other day.  Here’s one.